Mientras esperamos la llegada cual mesias de Durant, es buen tiempo para recordar la carrera de nuestro primer numero 2. El siempre genial y controvertido Gary Payton: The Glove, mote que le puso un primo suyo, viendole en los playoffs del 93, contra Phoenix y le dijo: "Estas defendiendo a Kevin Johnson tan pegado, como una pelota de beisbol al guante". Ya se que aqui tiene poco o ningun sentido, pero es como si a un yankee le explicas porque sale Raul con el capote cada vez que el Madrid gana algo. Criado en la dificil ciudad de Oakland, jugo en HS junto al Pacer Greg Foster, y de ahi voló a la Univ de Oregon St, donde tuvo sus problemillas en el segundo año, ya que no pudo jugar parte de la temporada por sus bajas notas. Sin embargo, en su temporada Senior, ya salia en la portada del Sport Illustrated. Salió de Oregon St como lider de todos los tiempos en puntos, tiros anotados, triples anotados, asistencias y robos (unico record que aun mantiene).
Elegido solo por detras de Derrick Coleman en el draft, llegaba en epoca de cambios en Seattle, como el guia y nuevo referente. Sin embargo, sus comienzos fueron tremendamente dificiles, y en sus 2 primeros años apenas llegaba a los 8 puntos de media, mostrandose tremendamente erratico en ataque, especialmente en el tiro de larga distancia. (7% en triples en su año rookie y 13% en su segunda temporada). Muchos rumores le situaban fuera del estado de Washington, pero con la llegada de George Karl todo cambió, incluso si camiseta, pasando a jugar del 2 al numero 20, por el que todos le conocemos. En el 94, Seattle explota, y se hace con el mejor record de la competicion, apoyados en la pareja Shawn Kemp/Gary Payton. Payton empieza una presencia de 9 años consecutivos en el All Star, en el equipo defensivo (mejor defensor en el 96), y en los mejores quintetos de la liga (2 veces en el primer quinteto, 98 y 2000, 5 en el segundo y otras 2 en el tercero). Todo pintaba de cara en el primer año post-Jordan, pero los Nuggets de Mutombo se cruzaron en el camino de los Sonics, y en un agonico quinto partido en el Key Arena, prorroga incluida, los Nuggets conseguian el hito de eliminar al primer clasificado de la liga. El golpe fue mortal, ya que el año siguiente, unos Lakers descafeinados volvian a apear a Seattle en primera ronda, y llovian criticas hacia los principales puntales del equipo, que casi provocan la ruptura del equipo. Sin embargo, unos pequeños cambios, como la llegada de Hersey Hawkins por Kendall Gill, o el aterrizaje de Sam Perkins, hicieron que los Sonics llegasen a la final, tras vencer a los Jazz en 7 partidos, unas finales contra los Bulls de MJ,que se perdieron en 6.
Payton durante estos años, y los siguientes hasta su salida, estuvo por encima de 20 puntos y cerca de las 10 asistencias, con grandes numeros ademas en robos.
Los grandes Sonics de los 90 empezaban una decadencia, con las salidas de Kemp a los Cavs, Schrempf a Portland...y Payton a Milwaukee en 2003 a cambio de Ray Allen. Luego acabaria en los Lakers en 2004 como agente libre, rechazando un oferton de los Blazers, junto a Karl Malone, en busca del ansiado anillo....pero el equipo de los invencibles acabó en fiasco total y salió hacia Boston, pese a que no le hizo ni pizca de gracia. De Boston fue traspasado a Atlanta en un traspaso que supuso la vuelta de Toine Walker a Boston, y Atlanta le corto inmediatamente, volvio a Boston y firmo ese verano con los Heat con los que alcanzaria la ansiada gloria en el 2006, siendo clave en el 3er prtido de la final con el tiro ganador y en el 5º partido con otro tirito que certificaba la victoria en Miami. Actualmente, esta sopesando ya con mas de 38 años la retirada o jugar otro añito mas junto a Shaq y Wade.
Otro aspecto por el que conocemos a Payton, es por su excentrica personalidad, que le ha valido ser el segundo jugador con mas tecnicas de la historia, y mucho tiene que ver su afilada lengua. Rey del Trash-talking, rey de sacar a los jugadores de quicio, simplemente preguntandoles "Hows the family", su excentricidad le ha llevado a llamar Gary Payton Jr. a dos de sus hijos, o a salir camara en mano por las calles de Oakland preguntando que opinaban de Charles Barkley, cuando dijo que Oakland era una ciudad insegura para albergar un All-Star.
Gary Payton, aka The Glove, aka Master P...un jugon en estado puro, siempre te recordaremos con esa mirada chulesca, pero con clase, corriendo la cancha y dejando esas bandejitas echando un pie hacia delante...jugon!!
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Ooooohhh... que bueno Juanejo. Si señor, un icono, junto a Kemp. Años buenos de gloria, y una vez más aparece la eliminación contra los Nuggets en este blog. Esa última jugada con tres tapones...
En fin, Payton tiene más que merecido que le cuelguen la camiseta del pabellon (esperemos que en Seattle).
Y lo del Thrash Talking, inolvidable, en las finales del 96 como le comio la oreja a un tal Jordan.
Mutombo promediando mas de 7 tapones por noche...que noche mas aciaga. Hombre, Payton tiene la camiseta retirada si o si, 12 años y medio como sonic al mas alto nivel...
lo del trashtalking, con MJ fue de traca, un amigo mio me decia que payton era el hugo sanchez de la nba.
Igualito que Hugo Sanchez!!! el mexicano comia la oreja a todo quisqui en los corners, y Payton lo hacia en los tiros libres. Dale que te pego, sin callar...
Juanejo, por cierto, para cuando ese post con las últimas novedades sobre el traslado. Bennett ha dicho que este año si va presentar la documentación para el traslado, tiene plazo hasta octubre...
Por no hablar de la discusión con el governador, que si sí me llamo, que si no... parecen niños.
huguito "tequila" sanchez, menudo era el mejicano, que se lo digan a bustingorri jajajaja.
De bennett estamos todavia en fase recopilativa de datos, durante la semana lo colgamos
muy bueno juanejo,vaya crack el payton,lo que más me hace gracia de él es su manera de correr la pista en ciertas ocasiones.
Hola cracks. Me gusta esa comparación entre Payton y Hugo Sanchez. Recuerdo una jugada genial del mexicano contra el Sporting. Tiene el portero Ablanedo el balón. Se pone delante Hugo como para dificultar el saque y le pisa un callo disimuladamente. El otro se rebota y le pega una patada. Hugo al suelo sobreactuando más que De Niro. Resultado. Penalti y expulsión (no me jodas Rafa) de Ablanedo. Huelga decir quien tiró y marcó el penalty. ¿Se puede ser más cabrón?
A mí Payton nunca terminó de llegarme pero menudo jugón estaba hecho. Por cierto, no sabía lo de que llevaba el 2 al principio, nunca he visto ninguna foto en que lo llevara...
Por cierto, ¿a Barba Azul le retiran la camiseta o qué? Yo se la retiraba pero su salida en aquel traspaso quizás sea un punto oscuro para que su 40 cuelgue del Key. No me suena que nadie lo haya vuelto a llevar pero tampoco que lo hayan retirado ¿no?
hmmmm a Kemp no creo que le retiren la camiseta, al menos a corto plazo, lo mismo dentro de 20 años hacen como a Spencer Haywood y se la retiran, pero no lo creo. A Payton si, casi 13 temporadas como sonic y a ese nivel...
muy buena anecdota de Huguito "tequila" Sanchez. Yo recuerdo en el campo de Osasuna, el madrid metio una goleada y la verdad es que los defensas navarros la estaban cagando, y tras estar todo el partido picado con ellos, llega Huguito a Bustingorri, tras una pifia y le dice "que bueno eres, Bustingorri, que bueno eres" y este casi le mata. Bueno, y el mitico botellazo en Sestao...menudo era
No conocía estos aspectos de la vida de Payton, pero me ha impresionado que llame a dos hijos igual, jajaj. En mi casa tenemos problemas con mi padre y mi hermano, que se llaman igual, pues a ver como se lo pontan con los tres Gary.
los dos Gary Payton Jr son con distintas mujeres, pero aun asi, hay que estar un poco tocado para poner a dos hijos el mismo nombre...
Yo recuerdo otra que le lió a Cedrún... Y el portero de 2.00 metros cuando le preguntaban qué tenía Hugo decía: "Marrullero, hum, marrullero...". No sabía decir exactamente qué es lo que tenía Hugo, pero la cara del portero bonachón era la de alguien que quiere cagarse en todo lo más sagrado...
Payton es un rajador nato en la cancha, pero está claro que nos quedamos con otras cosas. Cuando estaba a tope se deslizaba por la cancha. A poca gente he visto correr tan deprisa y con tanta suavidad. La entrada a canasta con el pie adelantado es completamente icónica. Menudo jugón.
La pareja que formó con Kemp nos convirtió en simpatizantes de los Sonics forever.
Jajajaja, me acuerdo de lo de Ablanedo y lo de Cedrún. Menudo capullo.
Payton parecía que no tocaba el parqué es cierto. Se deslizaba por la pista. Un jugón total. Payton-Kemp, casi nada. Aquello sí que era baloncesto y no el tostón ball de los Spurs.
Muy majo el post, Juanejo, de puto crack.
Tremendo post amigo Juanejo. como nos gusta recordar los buenos tiempos, a ver si Mr. Durant los 'reverdece', nunca mejor dicho. Creo que deberian de retirar la camiseta tanto de Payton como de Kemp, aunque eso esta a cargo de Wilkens, que parece un tio razonable
Kemp salio casi por la puerta de atras y rajando, no creo que a corto plazo se la retiren, aunque por lo que nos ha hecho disfrutar, se lo mereceria. Vaya parejita, the glove and the reignman...ese maldito año 94....la historia nos debe un anillo!!!
y de huguito sanchez...el botellazo en sestao fue de traca, luego al tioq ue pillo la policia decia que el habia tirado una botella, pero iba tan chuzo y habian tirado tantas que no sabia si la suya fue la que dio al mejicano.
Juanejo, Las Llanas era un campo duro, allí sin mariconadas, si te ponías tonto te corrían a hostias. Siempre he dicho que el Sestao tenía la camiseta más bonita de la historia del futbol... me acuerdo cuando estaban en segunda y venían de visita, grandes derbys.. este año tb vinieron muchos aficionados del River.
Y lo de Kemp, yo estoy con que no le van a colgar la camíseta nunca. Deportivamente se lo merece, por lo de llegar a la final y las grandísimas regulars season's, pero su salida y su posteripr deteriori físico y mental son una gran tara. Yo tenía un poster suyo de 1,5mx1,5m en mi habitacion...
La historia nos debe un anillo, si señor, con la pasta de Lewis, y el liderazgo del mesías pondremos los cimientos. Volveremos!
Joder Mc, yo creo que me lees la mente, jugon! Coincido contigo, el Sestao tiene la camiseta mas bonita del futbol mundial, esa verdinegra es preciosa. y la segunda mas bonita es la del Barakaldo, y luego la del Geta, y el Rayito.
Y tambien tenia yo ese poster de Kemp volando en mi habitacion! jaja, como diria DInio "eres mi blodel", jugon!
A mis brazos, hermanos. Siempre pensé que la camiseta del Sestao es la más bonita del futbol mundial. Qué curioso, coño.
Me descubro, yo soy de Eibar (y del Eibar), y siempre hubo buen rollito con el Sestao. Cuanbdo estaba en segunda los derbys eran geniales, y este año hemos coincidido en 2B. Nos llenaron el pueblo de pintadas, pero bien. Hace unos años, cuando el filial del Eibar estaba en tercera y se topo con el Sestao tb vinieron 200 o 300 taraos. Gran club, gran campo, excelente afición y bellísima zamarra!!! La amarilla y negra del Barakaldo ami no me gustaba... y la del Rayo ahora no me hace mucha gracia ;P
ostias es verdad, que o Eibar o Rayo suben a segunda. seguro que en vallekas hubo hermanamiento entre las dos aficiones. Ahora soy tambien un poco del Eibar, al que siempre tuve simpatia porque siempre era el equipo con menor presupuesto de segunda y estuvo algun año a punto de subir a primera. Gora Eibar!!!
El año que casi sube el Eibar me toco a mi cubrir la informacion del club, y el último fatídico día casi hecho el moco sobre el teclado. Gran equipo, Iraizoz, garitano, Lloente y un canario tímido de 18 añitos que chupo más patadas que el balon de un colegio... un tal Silva ¿os suena? Por cierto Juanejo, ¿sabes quien tocó aquel histórico día en la plaza de Eibar? Rosendo!!!! Con camíseta del Eibar, que gran día...
Ahora estamos con el Rayo, y tenemos que levantar un 1-0 en contra. La gente que fue a Vallekas habla maravillas. Nosotros fallamos un penalty y dimos dos palos, el Eibar es mejor pero toca demostarlo en casa... Nos hace falta un poco de oficio, volviendo al post, quiza habra que fichar a Payton.
Rosendo...menudo crack!! le vi hace poco en las fiestas de Getafe, y nunca defrauda. Silva en el Eibar!! no tenia ni idea, gran dato ese. Yo tengo un amiguete que es muy del rayo, y estuvo en el partido, y reconoce que el Rayo se cagó, que el 1-0 fue un milagro, y tambien hablaba que en los aledaños del estadio antes del partido estuvieron en un bar con gente del eibar y de pm, como debe de ser, que aprendan algunos.....Yo iba con el Rayo, pero ahora me alegrare tambien si sube el Eibar, y que vuelva a sonar aquel mitico "y atencion que tenemos gooool en Ipurua" a las radios.
Y como comentas, Payton es agente libre, seria una guinda que jugase en los sonics este año, ya un poco como punto final, que volviese al lugar de sus origenes. Seria un fichaje con un transfondo muy muy claro...ademas los jovenes siempre han hablado muy bien de Payton como mentor y motivador. Muy bien visto, jugon.
Con Silva hable una par de veces, pero no llegue a entrevistarlo. Un día entrevistando a otro me tope con él, e Ipurua estaba nevado, completamente nevado!! y el tío alucinaba, ¿pero así se puede jugar? decía, Vaya crack, hasta encima del hielo jugaba de maravilla!
Y lo de gol en Ipurua, poquitos, con Blas Ziarreta el 'Helenio herrera del cantabrico' catenaccio, patadas y barro, juas, juas... Se esperan este domingo 3.000 tíos de vallekas, nos van a dejar sin cerveza!
Y lo Payton estaría bien, tras el anillo un añito en Seattle, para enseñar un poco de zorrería (Picardia en los Sonics?? que es eso?...) a la chavalería que viene muy candida.
Blas Ziarreta!! ostias, menudo mito!! ese entrenaba al sestao. En el pcfutbol me cogia al sestao casi siempre, con esa camiseta, ese escudo...y esos cracks, como Aketza, Kali Garrido, Gurtubai...
Y si que vendria bien un poco de mala leche y vivacidad en el vestuario, y un mentor para nuestros jovenzuelos, que bastantes partidos se han perdido por eso, por falta de picardia.
Irureta tb paso por el Sestao, y Ziarreta por el Eibar! Kali Garrido pasó por Ipurua, y sigue jugando. Otros míticos eran Sarasua, Ipintza... y sobre todo el más que mitico Moska. Del Eibar, el sempiterno Garmendia, Artetxe, Arriola, Luluaga...
oooooostias!! Moska!! cacho de delantero centro, que salio de la cantera del Ath de Bilbao, joder, Moska...eso son palabras mayores.
Hola amigos, ¿qué tal va la vida? Espero que bien. Pues resulta que me quedaban unos centimillos en el cyber y me he dado una vuelta por vuestros blogs, con la sana envidia de los viejos tiempos. Cuánto me alegro comprobar que seguís ahí. POR CIERTO, WILT, MUCHÍSIMAS GRACIAS POR TU HOMENAJE. ME HA EMOCIONADO, DE VERDAD. ERES UN CRACK AUTÉNTICO, UN AMIGO. En cuanto al fin de temporada, la verdad es que han sido de las peorcitas finales que recuerdo, y eso que ya me he tragado 19. Algún destello de Parker o Ginobili y muy poco más. Creo que a LeBron le han pesado más las piernas de la temporada (que arrancó en los Mundiales, no olvidemos) y esa serie mortal contra los Pistons que la responsabilidad. Pero estoy seguro que los Cavs son el relevo natural a los Spurs en cuanto a "minidinastías". Eso sí, tendrían que reforzarse a conciencia si quieren dar la talla. Ah, bases como Payton ya no quedan, en fin. Y el Madri$, campeón de todo lo que se le ponga por delante, hay que joderse. Me alegro como madrileño (aunque soy del Estu hasta la médula) y me jode por el tontolaba de Calderón. Bueno muchachos, si no nos vemos o leemos, espero que paséis un buen veranito. Que nos espera la Eurocopa a la vuelta de la esquina. Y ya sabéis, mi blog jugón y "oficial" seguirá abierto por vacaciones, aunque con cuentagotas porque los videojuegos en verano brillan por su ausencia. UN ABRAZO A TODOS, OS QUIERO (SIN MARICONADAS, ¿EH?, JE, JE).
Joder, Julius, cómo te echamos de menos... Siempre acertado en tus comentarios, crack.
Por cierto, hoy me ha llegado a casa el abono para el Telefónica Arena. A ver qué puedo ir a ver al final...
julius, crack de cracks. we miss u!
Gracias a Julius, Peter y Wilt empecé con esto, creo que lo dije ya alguna vez. Luego vinieron Juanejo, Rafita, Wayne, 76ers, Avenida...
Lo de Payton en Seattle sería un detallazo, sin duda mucho mejor que el rumoreado fichaje de Penny Hardaway en invierno. Sería lo de Pippen en Chicago aunque con más carisma, evidentemente.
como siempre julius demostrando grandes detalles,yo también empecé en este mundo bloggero gracias a él,a peter y a wilt.
Cómo jugaba al poste este Payton, jugador de una franqucia por excelencia, cuando se fue de Seattle se acabó su carrera. Un poco bocazas y un jugón total, de los pocos bases que anotando son bases, no como Marbury o Francias.
Por cierto, lo que dijiste en el blog de Peter sobre Fran Vázquez (no sé si fuiste tú, pero es igual), yo ya dije hace tiempo, cuando renunció a la NBA que este tío es un "trepa". Es de Lugo y la cabeza no la tienen muy bien amueblada, y su familia tienen pinta de "trepas". Me alegro que le vaya tan mal.
Es cierto que Calderón no se lo cree.
Sobre Julius ya lo dije todo en ese post al que hacer referencia y ya sabe perfectamente lo que pienso. Un analista-cirujano de baloncesto.
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